Obama's speech tonight

[monet2u]

WOW! that was really really good!

Roll on November!

[James]

In Case You Missed It

Really Really Good??? Try one for the ages. I just listened to this and almost cried.

[aquaphase]

Here's something else to blow your mind: he wrote it himself. That one was damn moving.

[Irock]

Anyone else hear McCain might pick a woman for his running mate (govermor of Alaska I think)? Blatant pandering much? I think it would backfire...

[mere1975]

Anyone else hear McCain might pick a woman for his running mate (govermor of Alaska I think)? Blatant pandering much? I think it would backfire...

A lot of times, when I imagine the stereotype of who will vote for McCain I don't imagine the Highland Park set or my parents. I think of the Duggars, the family with 16 (17? 18?) kids.

Can they handle a woman VP?

- Mere "they probably only let the men of age vote anyway" 1975

[Phyllis]

wait...wait, you think the duggars actually vote?

[monet2u]

yeah that speech was amazing...I just didn't want to be the first to have to say it.

I felt proud to be american again last night, just thinking about the changes looming before us.

[aquaphase]

Anyone else hear McCain might pick a woman for his running mate (govermor of Alaska I think)? Blatant pandering much? I think it would backfire...

He picked her. I don't really see it as pandering

[roach]

the only thing more cliche than U2 at these things is Van Hagar's "right now"... that's what McCain just came out to to state who his running mate will be.
yikes, they're singing happy birthday to the old guy now. ahhhh.


and the new lady just gave a shout out to Hillary... pandering?

[Sybil]

yeah that speech was amazing...I just didn't want to be the first to have to say it.

I felt proud to be american again last night, just thinking about the changes looming before us.

Well, I'll say it. Whether it was very clever scheduling or just dumb luck I have no idea. But to have an African-American man standing before that crowd, making that speech, on that historic anniversary...well, I don't know about y'all, but I think I heard the sound of a dream coming true. Gave me a lump in my throat and chills down my spine. I'm glad I lived long enought to see it.

Sybil

[Irock]

Anyone else hear McCain might pick a woman for his running mate (govermor of Alaska I think)? Blatant pandering much? I think it would backfire...

He picked her. I don't really see it as pandering

I should preface what I'm about to say by statuing I know next to nothing about Sara Palin, so it's very liely I'm about to put my foot in my nouth.

BUT.

He's pandering to women, especially to the Hillary Holdouts (the number of which I think is much lower than they suspect). And I understand the irony and the unfairness (because I know so little about her), of what I'm about to say, but from where I sit right now it looks to me like if she weren't a woman there's no way in hell she'd have been picked(or even considered).

I just caught the end of her speach; what I heard was "John's a war hero and I'm like Hillary, Vote for me because I have a vagina, wheeee!"

I understand how much of the above might be taken as offensive or flat wrong, but this is my initial, ignorant reaction.

[aquaphase]

She really doesn't have that much experience, but she's an ex-model, married to an Eskimo, lifetime member of the NRA and she hates abortion (she has 5 kids because all you can do up in Alaska is hunt and fuck). She'll make an interesting president when John keels over the last week of October.

[roach]

she was the mayor of a city with population around 7000, city council of the same city before that and now first term governor. and she decided not to abort her 5th child she just recently had, even though he is a downy.

and I think there is no way in hell John would have picked her if it wasn't for her vaginay-ness.

[monet2u]

McCains choice is too little too late. People just didn't want a woman, they wanted Hillary Clinton. Nobody knows this person and nobody cares either. Well by nobody I mean me and the people I've spoken to.

[Sybil]

and I think there is no way in hell John would have picked her if it wasn't for her vaginay-ness.

Yep, because the Republicans think so little of the female's ability to reason (or make our own health care decisions) that they assume we'll all just fall into lockstep and vote for them because there's one of "us" on the ballot. Apparently, all they see when they look at Hillary Clinton is a woman, and that seems to be enough to get women to support a candidate, so by golly, they got them one. Dumb shits.

To plagiarize Ann Richards, women voting for McCain is like the chickens voting for the Colonel.

Sybil