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Postby Dutch » Thu Sep 14, 2006 4:00 pm

i've heard good things from both you and James and others about "I'm Calling," but no real description as to what it sounds like...


as for "Lithium," it's a beautiful song, and out of anything they've done since "wig in a box," it's catchy and wonderful and demands repeated listen. I just can't listen to TWH any more. i tried. it's just...soulless.

'mental cabaret' sounds like a band trying too hard to be something. what it is they're trying to be, i can't say.
"I'm Calling" sounds like Spork, except in about a 4 minute pop song with verses, choruses, and even a bridge! I'm trying to think what it sounds like, but it's very hook-laden and, as Michael said, hard to get out of the head. It's effortless, and obviously isn't trying to be something else.

Having recorded on "Lithium", I find it unlistenable. I think it's because what I thought was going to be fierce turned into something that sounds a bit childlike with the vocals. Oddly enough, "Love My Way" turned into the fiercer one, and I like that one. I'm sure "Lithium" is an absolute rocker live though.

And TWH had a soul once, but I think it got lost in the mix. If you'd have heard the older versions, you might be inclined to agree.
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There were plenty of things about the way TWH turned out that I found disappointing, but I hardly think it's soulless. That project was a huge undertaking, and I am quite proud - on my better days - of having been a part of it, however limitedly in the end. There are plenty of moments on that record that continue to inspire me.

I also think the childlike vocals in Lithium is one of the things that makes it so interesting, and you know how I feel about the childlike-melody sound being grossly over-utilized. In this case, however, I thought it was quite appropriate - the juxtaposition is jarring and manic, not in that it sounds manic, but simply that it is manic. The band sounds great, too. I can hear in that track a bridge being built between naivete and bewildered exhaustion. I think it was a good reminder of the kind of genuine expression the band is often capable of.

Love My Way is utterly lackluster to me, and I agree with Mr. J about Mental Cabaret. I agree with James about I'm Calling, with the exception of the melody and lyric of the first part of the first verse - the cliche is so bare it's unbareable, though I do like the instrumental intro and what continues out of that under the vocal.

And Mr. J, go listen to I'm Calling and form an opinion. I don't know how to distill the listening experience in words precisely enough to substitute for hearing it yourself.

P.S. Ys rules.
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Postby rockfan » Thu Sep 14, 2006 4:13 pm

i've heard good things from both you and James and others about "I'm Calling," but no real description as to what it sounds like...
"I'm Calling" is a lovely song that sounds like it comes from the heart. It's definitely my favorite from the album.

Wonder no more about it...it's a free play on here: http://www.myspace.com/polyphonicspree

Enjoy!

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Postby James » Thu Sep 14, 2006 4:14 pm

i've heard good things from both you and James and others about "I'm Calling," but no real description as to what it sounds like...


as for "Lithium," it's a beautiful song, and out of anything they've done since "wig in a box," it's catchy and wonderful and demands repeated listen. I just can't listen to TWH any more. i tried. it's just...soulless.

'mental cabaret' sounds like a band trying too hard to be something. what it is they're trying to be, i can't say.
"I'm Calling" sounds like Spork, except in about a 4 minute pop song with verses, choruses, and even a bridge! I'm trying to think what it sounds like, but it's very hook-laden and, as Michael said, hard to get out of the head. It's effortless, and obviously isn't trying to be something else.

Having recorded on "Lithium", I find it unlistenable. I think it's because what I thought was going to be fierce turned into something that sounds a bit childlike with the vocals. Oddly enough, "Love My Way" turned into the fiercer one, and I like that one. I'm sure "Lithium" is an absolute rocker live though.

And TWH had a soul once, but I think it got lost in the mix. If you'd have heard the older versions, you might be inclined to agree.
"Talking about music is like dancing about architecture." Nonetheless...

There were plenty of things about the way TWH turned out that I found disappointing, but I hardly think it's soulless. That project was a huge undertaking, and I am quite proud - on my better days - of having been a part of it, however limitedly in the end. There are plenty of moments on that record that continue to inspire me.

I also think the childlike vocals in Lithium is one of the things that makes it so interesting, and you know how I feel about the childlike-melody sound being grossly over-utilized. In this case, however, I thought it was quite appropriate - the juxtaposition is jarring and manic, not in that it sounds manic, but simply that it is manic. The band sounds great, too. I can hear in that track a bridge being built between naivete and bewildered exhaustion. I think it was a good reminder of the kind of genuine expression the band is often capable of.

Love My Way is utterly lackluster to me, and I agree with Mr. J about Mental Cabaret. I agree with James about I'm Calling, with the exception of the melody and lyric of the first part of the first verse - the cliche is so bare it's unbareable, though I do like the instrumental intro and what continues out of that under the vocal.

And Mr. J, go listen to I'm Calling and form an opinion. I don't know how to distill the listening experience in words precisely enough to substitute for hearing it yourself.

P.S. Ys rules.
I agree with the beginning of "I'm Calling". The opening piano bit is exceptional though. I always tend to overlook TD/Spork lyrics though because they're generally not of much importance to me (with a few major exceptions). Everything else, we'll have to agree to disagree. Except on the part where Mr J needs to listen to the song and form an opinion. And while you're at it, listen to The Soft Bulletin and form one off of that as well.
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Postby mr_j » Thu Sep 14, 2006 4:18 pm

There were plenty of things about the way TWH turned out that I found disappointing, but I hardly think it's soulless. That project was a huge undertaking, and I am quite proud - on my better days - of having been a part of it, however limitedly in the end. There are plenty of moments on that record that continue to inspire me.
When I mean "soulless," i mean in comparsion to the live show. I loved the hell out of the record for quite some time after I received it back in the day, but then after putting it aside and coming back to it, it just didn't really strike me as very magical. the last time i tried to listen to it a few months ago, it just really left me cold. IMO it sounded dull compared to the shows i'd seen before, and the spontanaety of the 'event' doesn't compare to either the debut or the live show. it sounds slick, glossy, and overproduced, and in that sense, it feels soulless to me.
I also think the childlike vocals in Lithium is one of the things that makes it so interesting, and you know how I feel about the childlike-melody sound being grossly over-utilized. In this case, however, I thought it was quite appropriate - the juxtaposition is jarring and manic, not in that it sounds manic, but simply that it is manic. The band sounds great, too. I can hear in that track a bridge being built between naivete and bewildered exhaustion. I think it was a good reminder of the kind of genuine expression the band is often capable of.
couldn't agree more with you on this one. if you're bored, watch the Veruca Salt song on Willy Wonka (the *real* version of the movie) with the sound off, and listen to 'lithium.' very fascinating how it fits together.
Love My Way is utterly lackluster to me, and I agree with Mr. J about Mental Cabaret.
again, agree w/ya on this one. it should never have seen the light of day.

And Mr. J, go listen to I'm Calling and form an opinion. I don't know how to distill the listening experience in words precisely enough to substitute for hearing it yourself.
i didn't realize until just now that it is an actual *CD* release. i've heard/had the other songs on the release for a while now, and i'd been under the impression that it was an iTunes-only thing, so i'm extremely curious as to what it sounds like.....

P.S. Ys rules.
i wouldn't say it rules, but my opinion is starting to change on it....
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Postby mr_j » Thu Sep 14, 2006 4:19 pm

i've heard good things from both you and James and others about "I'm Calling," but no real description as to what it sounds like...
"I'm Calling" is a lovely song that sounds like it comes from the heart. It's definitely my favorite from the album.

Wonder no more about it...it's a free play on here: http://www.myspace.com/polyphonicspree

Enjoy!

wow. it sounds like tim's written a real *song* as opposed to trying to write a *spree* song. what i mean by that is that instead of producing another song that says or promotes a "Hey! We're happy! We're in robes! We're a big band! We have a choir that sounds child-like! We do this large, loud show!" he's undertaken to write a song first and then add the elements, instead of writing with the elements at the front of the mind during the creation process.

if congleton produced this song, it shows how genius he is.
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Postby rockfan » Thu Sep 14, 2006 4:25 pm

i've heard good things from both you and James and others about "I'm Calling," but no real description as to what it sounds like...
"I'm Calling" is a lovely song that sounds like it comes from the heart. It's definitely my favorite from the album.

Wonder no more about it...it's a free play on here: http://www.myspace.com/polyphonicspree

Enjoy!

wow. it sounds like tim's written a real *song* as opposed to trying to write a *Spork* song.
It's well written, and I love the violin and the choir parts...and the end...wow! :D

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Postby mr_j » Fri Sep 15, 2006 6:16 pm

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guess the robes are still around..
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Postby froggorino » Sat Sep 16, 2006 3:47 am

they look so stripped down
Well, there are more of them that aren't in the pic. Like Bryan, Ricky, the other horn player, etc. There's gonna be about 23 or so at the show in Dallas.

Did anyone notice Sandra in the choir? (Top left.)
holy crap! sandra actually did it! i didn't know. good for her.

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Postby ChrisLovesYou » Sat Sep 16, 2006 3:54 am

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guess the robes are still around..
I imagine he wears the old robes as pyjamas now and he couldn't find his trousers that morning.
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Postby sandrapowers » Sat Sep 16, 2006 5:31 pm

they look so stripped down
Well, there are more of them that aren't in the pic. Like Bryan, Ricky, the other horn player, etc. There's gonna be about 23 or so at the show in Dallas.

Did anyone notice Sandra in the choir? (Top left.)
holy crap! sandra actually did it! i didn't know. good for her.

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