well well well

[monet2u]

sorry I was really a bit hungry, but it's now passed. well sort of, but I'll be home within the hour(ish).

[Phyllis]

ok so

why does everyone need to be aware?

[Rubbs]

My apologies to Aquaphase.

[Rubbs]

I wouldn't view it as "bitching." Over the last few weeks, Rubbs has made several very interesting posts concerning missing spirit (click here), alluding to the death of The Spork (click here) and expressing his disgust with the current state of discourse on the other forum (reread this thread). Personally, I find all of these issues to be very relevant and think it's important that we explore them in greater detail (the good, the bad and the ugly) without involving people (both forkers and spork fans) who want no part of any of this.

hmmm...i'll admit that part of RM's appeal is he gets you to thinking, and what he means and what you think of when you read what he says might not be the same thing. i can't interpret him, but i'll simply echo what others have said and say that he's not saying anything bad or mean or what have you. he's simply speaking for his own feelings, in general.
because, damn, if you or i or anyone were to say i was 1/2 the fan of RM, i/you/they would be a liar. the man...

I <3 Rubbs...even though we don't see eye to eye, he's a beautiful soul. don't worry about what he says or what he thinks. it's all about what *you* think.

nail on the head.

[Rubbs]

jb -- i am not one to jump on any bandwagon, but the way i am perceived in none of my business. being true and as genuine as possible is my business, while still taking into account other people's feelings. but how do people take me? this is something that is the result of their impression of me rattled around for a while in a little blender with a zillon other impressions, experiences, and prejudices that have nothing to do wth me. know what i mean? people are not generally clear about what is forming their opinions, and try to smear lots of unrelated shit together and name it impression. and it has very little to do with the actual initial stimulus.

so how could i possible control someone else's perception? it is totally impossible, unless i am trying to persuade. which is not the same as express.

It's not about controlling perception, but taking responsibility for your actions. I don't intend to be "arrogant" and "sanctimonious," but that is how I am perceived by some of you and I'm willing to own it. As for Rubbs, he'd rather lash out at me for being a "mother fucker" instead of admitting that starting this thread (on this forum of all places) hurt some decent inncoent people. So although I may also be a "mother fucker," it still doesn't negate or excuse his behavior (intentional or not).

Furthermore, unlike myself, Rubbs is a pillar in The Spork community and has a legacy to protect. My initial post was simply to point out that starting this thread served no purpose but to hurt the feelings of some very nice people who think very highly of him and seems very uncharacteristic coming from a person who we would all agree is the embodiment of all things The Spork claim to be. And it is only because I have the highest esteem for him that I am so disappointed by his actions and felt compelled to say something about it.

I didn't mean to hurt feelings. Sorry.

[froggorino]

Ever since the official forum was shut down and management pulled the plug on the comments section of the blog, it appears that some of you feel like you don't have a proper outlet to talk about The Spork and voice your genuine concerns regarding the state of the band.

Honestly, to me it's like talking about the US presidential election of 2004. It can still get me riled up. I didn't and still don't like the outcome. I've spent a lot of time talking about it with friends. But it's over for me. . . What am I going to do now except sound like sour grapes because I'm not on the bandwagon?

- Mere "and to Froggie -- it drives me mad that most contemporary 'beat poets/poetry slam/def poets' all speak in the same cadence. . . WHY?!!" 1975

did you click on my sig? it's hi-freakin-larious! and you should hear cbas doing it as a joke. gives me one more reason to think he's the best, cause he's great at it. maybe i should tape him and you-tube it. omg, i am totally gonna try to get him to let me!

frog"great idear, me!"gy

[aquaphase]

My apologies to Aquaphase.

you never ever have to apologize for anything. I mean that.

[katie]

To Katie:

I am not trying to start a war between forums. And by your own admission, you don't "get" what's going on (see page 2 of this thread). So feel free to ignore me and this thread.

by starting a huge argument here over nothing, and then making it seem like a giant us vs. them war and THEN posting over there with the link to this argument you're fostering... say you're "informing," but dude, you're just starting shit for the hell of it. don't like the discussion here? peace out. rubberman is a nice guy from what i've heard (never met him, never really interacted with him) but he is certainly not a god. members of the spree are not gods. no one on this forum is a god. we're all human.

and my statement of "i don't get it" still stands. I DON'T GET WHY THIS WAS MADE INTO SUCH A BIG DEAL. (what phyllis said.)

so now i've tossed my nickel down and you can keep the change.

[rockfan]

gail did you really read what I wrote???

I said you and Sarah are GENUINELY nice!!!!!

ugh!!!!!!

Sandra

Thanks for clearing that up, Sandra. I thought I tried to be genuinely nice and not just pretend nice. But I am just as naughty as nice sometimes too. But in a good way, for me anyway. I know you can be naughty too, and you know what I mean.

Your English gets better all the time. I just think you missed a comma before our names.

[rockfan]

gail,

if you really make a slam poetry video, i will give you $25. for real. then you will be a professional poet, and i will have months of random entertainment.

frog"check my sig, although cbas was toppin this dude like crazy last night (as a joke)"gy

Sounds like a challenge! Now if I only knew what slam poetry was. I guess that's an example you've given.

Hey, Rubberman, you're cool. I know you are a man of few or majorly many words. Next time maybe you could better explain exactly what you are making fun when referring to the "other" forum. I didn't get it at first. But I'm kinda dense like that sometimes.

The rest of you: I love all you guys, whether you care about the Spork anymore or not. It is through knowing them that I got to know you. For that, I will be eternally grateful as long as Nerf and Mr. J don't come beat up on me one day. Phyllis I can take on although she scared me at first. Phyllis is gonna be my homegirl one day...maybe after a road trip to her house or if she visits mine someday.

Kisses, fists and forks for all! And give me a Skyy and cranberry with that.

[Phyllis]

i wouldn't worry about nerf and mr jay beating you up, considering mr. j is way too old and nerf is just a pussy.

p.s. i scare people? whooooa

[Devdog]

I can't believe I'm having to pay for the bandwidth involved in this discussion. Fuckin'-A

or is it.....

[mr_j]

maybe it's:

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[I am BC]

I'm the hugest loser on the planet...I havent been on here in like a month, and I have no clue what any of you are talking about.

But I did hear we landed on the moon....

BC

[sandrapowers]

gail did you really read what I wrote???

I said you and Sarah are GENUINELY nice!!!!!

ugh!!!!!!

Sandra

Thanks for clearing that up, Sandra. I thought I tried to be genuinely nice and not just pretend nice. But I am just as naughty as nice sometimes too. But in a good way, for me anyway. I know you can be naughty too, and you know what I mean.

Your English gets better all the time. I just think you missed a comma before our names.

je suis désolée;)

Sandra xox