MOMA - Richard Serra

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MOMA - Richard Serra

Postby Dalya » Tue Jun 26, 2007 3:27 am

there's a special exhibit of his sculptures at MOMA right now and I love them. most of his sculptures are just these sheets of iron that are turned at really subtle angles to make maze-like and cave-like structures that you can walk through.

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on the moma website there are virtual tours and videos of how they installed the sculptures. its really cool.

http://www.moma.org/exhibitions/2007/serra/flash.html
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Postby sam » Tue Jun 26, 2007 11:05 pm

I've always liked My Curves Are Not Mad at the DMA/Nasher. Torqued Ellipse IV is bad ass. I'd love to see it in person. The smaller ones don't have the same effect, maybe Delineator.

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Postby Dalya » Wed Jun 27, 2007 12:49 am

the big ones are definitely better. there were some of his smaller pieces too but I didn't like them nearly as much. the ones in the courtyard were really cool also because you can look up at them against the sky and aginst other buildings instead of just white walls. My favorite was Sequence (2006) which was on the 2nd level. Also Band (2006). His newer stuff was more interesting to me, probably because as he's gained more money and admiration he has been able to make such ridiculously big pieces.

anyone who will be in new york before the exhibition ends should definitely go.
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Postby Dalya » Wed Jun 27, 2007 12:52 am

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Postby NerfHerder » Wed Jun 27, 2007 3:03 am

Is this art?
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Postby ChrisLovesYou » Wed Jun 27, 2007 5:02 am

NerfHerder wrote:Is this art?


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Postby NerfHerder » Wed Jun 27, 2007 5:49 am

OH GOD THEY'RE EVERYWHERE! DON'T LET THEM INTO THE MUSEUM OF MODERN ART OR THEY MIGHT RUIN EVVVVVVERYTHING!!!

That shitty metal thing that isn't as cool as a maze but is kind of like one can't get worms on it 'til July!
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Postby guseldorph » Wed Jun 27, 2007 11:40 pm

NerfHerder wrote:Is this art?


anything that makes you ask that question is.
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Postby monet2u » Thu Jun 28, 2007 12:03 am

guseldorph wrote:
NerfHerder wrote:Is this art?


anything that makes you ask that question is.


well I was at SF MOMA recently and found myself starring at a plain white canvas...COME ON that's just LAZY...at least slop some color on there.

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Postby ChrisLovesYou » Thu Jun 28, 2007 1:28 am

monet2u wrote:
guseldorph wrote:
NerfHerder wrote:Is this art?


anything that makes you ask that question is.


well I was at SF MOMA recently and found myself starring at a plain white canvas...COME ON that's just LAZY...at least slop some color on there.


Just because it's art doesn't mean it has to be good or anything.
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Postby sam » Thu Jun 28, 2007 1:44 am

monet2u wrote:
guseldorph wrote:
NerfHerder wrote:Is this art?


anything that makes you ask that question is.


well I was at SF MOMA recently and found myself starring at a plain white canvas...COME ON that's just LAZY...at least slop some color on there.


Was it Robert Irwin? I saw him speak in college and he rocks.

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Postby Dalya » Thu Jun 28, 2007 3:32 am

It's art. You can't even tell the complexities of the angles and arcs until you are standing next to it. I have no idea how he even made them without using a computer program to calculate the angles. Some of them looked as though they shouldn't even be able to stand up, but they do.

White convas covered in white paint is still art. The only art I can't get into is found object art. With modern art it also helps to know something about the artist and know the basic history of modern art, since a lot of it builds on other artists/concepts.

Plus, if the creator says it's art, it's art. Just like if a writer says a 80 page piece is a "short story" and not a novella, then it's a short story. Doesn't mean you have to like or get it.

Serra = badass.
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Postby Dalya » Thu Jun 28, 2007 4:12 am

besides how can you draw the line between any of these, as to what is "real" art?

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pollack

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morris louis

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rothko

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duchamp

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kandinsky

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jasper johns

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de kooning

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klee

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miro

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rodin

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Postby lennon » Thu Jun 28, 2007 12:19 pm

thanks dalya.

i got to visit the FMA (Forkers Museum of Art) in my pajamas this morning.

btw- i love jackson pollock. whos with me?

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Postby Irock » Thu Jun 28, 2007 12:55 pm

Pollock = meh.
Sera = s'ok. I think he's more interesting than Pollock, but maybe that's because so many people have copied Pollock. I wouldn't write home about either of them, but I do like modern art. The Modern in Madrid is by far the coolest one I've been to.

I freaking HATE that Kandinsky piece, but that's only because it used to hang in the conference room in my old building and it seems to - inauthentic to have it there. So we could be all inspired and shit when we had our monthly metrics meetings and talked about new product launches.
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